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Pasture Time Gradient?
  • The FAQ says “ While the full pature bonus takes 30 days to accumulate, some people choose to accept less than the full bonus and breed pastured mares earlier than 30 days.”

    Does this mean there is a 50% bonus at 15 days? If so, 50% of what (better foals, I know, but how much better?)? And am I ruining the magic by asking this? lol

    Sorry if it’s been discussed already but couldn’t find anything in Search. Also, there is a typo in that FAQ line, no offense intended.
  • I can't help much with the question. I don't understand exactly how it works either. However, for the typo, there is a thread to report them on here-

    https://mesa.huntandjump.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/1849/typo-tracker#Item_2

    Just add a link to the page with the issue as well as copy and paste the typo and say what the typo is.
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  • I’m pretty sure we don’t know the answer to this question. I’d be interested the answer as well.
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  • I remember it as: Every day in pasture increases the chance that the mare will have a foal from the higher end of her breeding range/ability.
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  • I found this in the wiki! It’s in the Building Your Stable section under Bootstrapping. I just copied the whole thing; hope that’s ok :)>-

    Posted To Bluegrass Server by Ammit 1-23-19

    A working example of uneven breeding and pasture bonuses.

    I decided it would help people a lot to see some real concrete examples of what sort of intact rates you should expect from breeding your horses. I created 50 perfect foundation mares and bred them each 8 times too different studs at different pasture bonus levels. Here are the results.

    **All horses used in this test and all foals had all testing done on them including strict breeding advice. You can expect a much larger number of intact foals (near double) for regular breeding advice**

    Test 1: Perfect foundation stallion (100% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), zero days in pasture.
    Results: 12 intact foals, 38 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 99%, Avg PT 9.65

    Test 2: Perfect foundation stallion (100% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), 30+ days in pasture.
    Results: 34 intact foals, 16 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 102%, Avg PT 9.91

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    Test 3: Exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (105% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), zero days in pasture.
    Results: 3 intact foals, 47 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 103%, Avg PT 9.99

    Test 4: Exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (105% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), 30+ days in pasture.
    Results: 20 intact foals, 30 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 105%, Avg PT 10.21


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    Test 5: 5% Boosted Exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (110% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), zero days in pasture.
    Results: 5 intact foals, 45 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 104%, Avg PT 10.11

    Test 6: 5% Boosted Exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (110% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), 30+ days in pasture.
    Results: 11 intact foals, 39 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 108%, Avg PT 10.39

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    Test 7: 5% boosted clone of 5% Boosted Exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (115% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), zero days in pasture.
    Results: 0 intact foals, 50 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 108%, Avg PT 10.48


    Test 8: 5% boosted clone of 5% Boosted Exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (115% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), 30+ days in pasture.
    Results: 1 intact foals, 50 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 110%, Avg PT 10.68

    This test gives a great look at what sort of intact rates you can expect given different amounts of uneven ability breeding. All these horses are foundations so are certainly even generation numbers but ever 5% increase in breeding ability is roughly a generations increase in quality.

    The perfect foundation stud is even ability with the perfect foundation mares, but the 105% stud is like crossing second gens and foundations, the 110% is like crossing third gens and foundations and the 115% stud is like crossing a 4th gen and foundations.

    Mares with a full 30 day pasture bonus produced foals about as good as those sired by a stallion 5% higher, but with a much higher intact rate.

    These ratios hold true regardless of how good the horses are. A sire who is 5% better then the mares will always produce a similar ratio of intact foals regardless if the cross is 105% to 100% or 125% to 120%.
  • Test 1: Perfect foundation stallion (100% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), zero days in pasture.
    Results: 12 intact foals, 38 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 99%, Avg PT 9.65


    Test 7: 5% boosted clone of 5% Boosted Exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (115% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), zero days in pasture.
    Results: 0 intact foals, 50 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 108%, Avg PT 10.48

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    This really drives home what I keep telling people. You can have more intact foals or you can have better foals. You can't have both, and more intact foals does not mean you are getting better quality foals.
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