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Please help me fix my horse !
  • I wanted another platinum stallion and decided to try it on a Texas Tea RS.
    I also added my favorite kit gene W8.
    The original horse was a Dun something or other and very yellow. Now it’s completely white I thought possibly the W20 and W8 was washing it out, so took the W20 out, no change. Also tried rerolling images. What do I need to change?! I hate to burn through more of the GMTs I bought myself for my birthday!! Is it the Frame?

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  • He has 4 white marking genes. Splash, frame, tobiano, and white 8.

    I've seen tobiano splash frames be almost completely white. It's probably the additive effect of all 4 at once. Let me find you some examples:
  • Send Ammit a private message. Include the link/picture and let her know what happened. I'm pretty sure that Platinum changes red/yellow to the white-ish/silver, and she may need to reset something or other.


    From the description for Platinum: The platinum gene completely removes yellow tones from a horse's coat and heavily reduces red tones while leaving dark tones intact.
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    ConfluenceStable- HJ1 ID#235298 * ConfluenceFarms- HJ2 ID#1998 * ConfluenceRanch- HJ3 ID#15
  • Hom w8 on minimal white factor:

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    PD Arthur Morgan C1G


    Tobiano/w8 on minimal white factor:

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    **GIFT**A Christmas Gift


    Going to look on the other servers for examples of to/sw1 and sw1/olwo. Yours is the only one so far on here!
  • @SilverbornStud

    I did not think about tobiano doing that, and I have even had foals do exactly what you’re talking about. So maybe I should have just swapped the W20 for W8 when I first started! I probably need to remove the TO I added and maybe then I will have a little color!
    @ConfluenceRanch I will shoot Ammit a message and confirm what I need to do. Thank you both!
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    RS PintOfGuiness


    This one has tobiano, splash, and frame with minimal white factor.

    Also keep in mind yours is a chimera. That means he's either going to have patches of each strand or be striped. Depending where the white markings are on each "separate body", a chimera can easily look mostly white. The platinum will further reduce the brown pigment.
  • This chimera of mine has hom Lp on both strands along with sabino and Rabicano. You can see how even with minimal and medium white factor, the stripes make her look mostly white.

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    SB Hidden Gates


    This one is a patchy chimera with minimal and light white factor. The minimal side left most of the color and the light side lost most of it, so she looks tobiano but she's actually sabino/w20 and splash on both strands!

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    SB G1H Clean Slate
  • That makes SO MUCH sense! I bet that may be what happened. That is a very good way to think about Chimeras! I saw some really cool ones with plt added and it didn’t look *too complicated* so I was like well maybe….
  • Adding genes is always a bit of a gamble the first time. I've had a few that i immediately removed something and hated it, or added something and hated it. When i put diamond sparkle on a silver pocket watch the first time i held my breath!

    It's part of the learning experience. Ammit is good at helping with these.
  • Guys PLEASE stop telling people to send me private messages if it is not a Paypal issue. I told her to make a forum post before seeing this. Paypal only for PM. If it isn't something that needs to be secret please don't send me a PM. it really bogs down my work flow and makes it hard for me to make sure everyone's payment issues are sorted.
    Need to contact me? Read this first.

    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


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  • Ok to address a gene issue like this the best thing to do is to do some searching for similar horses. Mesa is small so that is thought but Bluegrass had several similar horses and the issue is definitely that this horse has way too many white genes stacked on it.

    You said you love w8 so I left that on. That got his white markings down. It looks like you picked a super pale buckskin though. Platinums can look like chinchillas if you give them nothing to work with. I added 1 copy of sooty to give him some color.

    If you want to him even darker you could remove the cream or add more darkening genes. :)
    Need to contact me? Read this first.

    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


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  • This is an example of “Mesa is too small go look elsewhere.” Why are we asking new players to start here and then sending them to look on bluegrass? I get the logic and the reasons but it feels very discouraging as a new player following directions to be told the answers aren’t on the server they were told to join.

    A reminder I think all of this game is super rad.
  • No one is asking them to! >:/

    Other people already told her it had too many white genes stacked on it. I didn't have time to do a deep dive looking for things in the search as examples so I posted the fast version from bluegrass. I didn't have time because I was helping her by editing her horse for her and answering PMs from other players . Scolding me when I fixed her horse for her seems really rude.
    Need to contact me? Read this first.

    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


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  • @Ammit thank you so much! I will go look at other examples today and see if I want him a little darker. He looks pretty cool though!
  • Thank you all for helping me learn!!
    Here is the final product.

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    ASF Irate


    And as a bonus I took what I learned and made a mare as well! I really love the dual layer effect of Chims.

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  • He turned out great! Love the mare too. :D
    Need to contact me? Read this first.

    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


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  • I apologize, as I didn’t mean to scold. I think what you did was great. That wasn’t what I was trying to say and I’m sorry I was unclear.

    I’m more thinking of the “how do we learn as new players” and it seems like often the answer is found on another server. My thought process was that this is the new player server but often the knowledge is elsewhere. I don’t know how to bridge that gap but I’ve noticed it now that I’m active on another server.

    You are great. My whole point was looking on another server is seems counterintuitive to me, especially when new players are directed to this server. Last I checked I couldn’t even make an account on bluegrass because it was full, so I wouldn’t be able look for examples. If I can search without having an account, I don’t know how.

    I hope this makes more sense. The last thing I want to do is scold anyone for helping. I’m just saying I can’t go look for examples like is being suggested.

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