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It sounds like you might be confused on a few points so I wanted to clarify things. Not changing the GMT payout does not mean it won't change anything. Changing the number of slots allowed is a big change in and of its self. That's why I am asking for input here.

The psychological impact of seeing your name on the board, even just getting a ribbon is big. Just see the forum posts of people excited for their first ribbon for proof. While it will of course, still take patience and lots of work to get on the boards, it does mean we are guaranteed to have a spread of players in every category. That kind of excitment is healthy for the community.

I also want to be clear this is not the day before notice. We have 4 weeks until the next lb awards.

As for other ideas please hold them for the moment. There will be a thread to discuss wider lb changes once I am ready to hold that conversation.

I am for the next era, I don't make the lb often but when I do it makes me want to work more to get to the lb list, and I am player that dose not max my horses with gmt mostly be cause I don't get many lol, but it would be nice to see other players make the lb.

I’m on discord, I love this, I vote for 5. (wouldn't mind 3)

Also, why would it have to be either December or June? Why not January or something? Does it have to be with the new era?

DP my preference would be do to it with the new Era though it is not critical, just slightly preferable. I don't think this is a major enough change to warent waiting until June but I am willing to hear people out if they want to just have all changes all at once in one single bandaid rip in June.

I think you should wait until the next era so you aren't being rushed to get it out and have the time to get it as perfect as possible. If you have it completed before the next era put it in but at least its not being rushed.

As for placing I think 2 maybe 3 spots per person. This way everyone potentially has the chance to get some GMT's. Ribbons & seeing my name on the leaderboard is great & all and does show that I am make some kind of progress but I would love the chance to add more GMT's to my stash. I would love to buy some rare genes with real money but at the moment I am out of a job so I am unable to spend real money on games so I am using GMT's to get the rare genes when I am able to get them that way. I am always looking for different ways to get more GMT's so I have a stockpile on hand for the sales when they come around.

I’ve recently started being placed on the leaderboard within I’d say the last 6 or 7 months as before that I didn’t have a clue / didn’t properly participate in the game so I apologise if my answer isn’t correct or all over the place. This last season was my absolute best and I made over 85GMTs from my whole breeding season and did fantastic with a lot of my foals, stallions and mares.

I’ll be completely honest and say I think I was probably a player this time who swept up a lot of the ribbons specifically in the Black PT of the year, I won all the rosettes bar 6th and 8th but that is down to the fact I’ve managed to source straws and eggs and I finally bred some great mares and boosted them / bred them to some great stallions and I am privileged enough to be able to max out my foals if they need it and have now started my own little TH line - which wouldn’t have been possible without people putting their straws and eggs for sale.

I like the fact that my foals get ribbons but I do aim for top spots to get the GM tokens so I can continue to improve my stock. I’m happy to only be on a leaderboard 5 times personally as I know how hard it can be to start up a breeding farm and the work it takes to match your mares / stallions. And if the GMTs aren’t being affected (say if a player won 1st/2nd and 3rd) I’m okay with being on there 5 times rather than 25 as it kind of loses the competitive edge as if players know well my horses are the best of the best I don’t need to compete with anyone type thing which I think defeats the objective of the game really - we should all want to be competitive with each other and breed the best horses if we’re aiming for the leaderboard.

HOWEVER, that being said, I think it could damage people’s sales - as I do sell a lot of my foals / mares after the awards and if they don’t have the rosettes it could damage their sales prices - which I’m sure some people will agree with me here they’d pay more for an awarded foal than not.

But at the same time, this will then make these better foals (even if they haven’t got a rosette) more affordable to new players and therefore make the leaderboards easier to access and also make it more fun in the long run as there is more competition. (Which is one of the reasons I sell my stock and a lot of the time they are unbred so people can boost ect if they want to)

I think it’s a good idea really, the only downside being that less of certain breeders foals/mares will get a rosette if they are lower than 5 other horses in the same category - but the upside being someone else who potentially doesn’t get the thrill of having a rosette will get a rosette which I think is nice.

I think it’s very fair that it’s per category and I think it will make the game more competitive and more accessible for the players who may not have been able to compete against the top breeders in the specific category they are aiming for.

I’m not sure what the "Boosted over cap foals will no longer count towards the best producer list." means that LHS mentioned if someone could just explain that to me :)

@Ammit it may not affect the amount of GMT's a person gets based on the placing they get but say you limit the amount of spots a person is allowed to "occupy" on any given leaderboard to 2 spots and they happen to have the top 2 spots on that leaderboard then there is at least another spot for another person to receive a GMT (IE person A is placed 1st & 2nd so they would receive 5 of the GMTs in the pot and are at the max spots they are allowed on that leaderboard. Person B is in 3rd place, so they receive the remaining GMT that is in that pot for that leaderboard, and they still have the opportunity to pick up another placing somewhere else on the board.) You did ask for suggestions on how many spots a person should be able to have on a leaderboard which I gave and the reasons behind it. Hopefully the example I gave here clarifies it a little but more.

@Ammit - I think I get it, I have a grey stallion that came 2nd in the rankings but his score was actually better than the champion but I boost my foals and the other stallions foals probably aren’t. I wondered why my boy wasn’t first but that makes sense thanks

I would prefer it to be 5 if this is implemented for the reasons I’ve stated earlier & I would like to have a bit longer to sort my breeding program out. I personally don’t see the point in having a large breeding farm if they’re not all going to get rosettes & be on the board, seems to me that it would be better to have a smaller and more concentrated herd that I know are going to produce the best quality as opposed to those that sometimes produce well and sometimes don’t. I’d definitely have to get rid of a fair amount.

I try for Frame, Tobiano, Grey, Black, Belton and Appaloosa mostly, anything else is just an added bonus but I’d like to be able to get my things in order before the whole thing is added into the game.

Reading LG’s concerns also makes me think about that side of it too as if you’ve only got 1 or 2 categories to focus on it would be disheartening, whereas I do focus on multiple categories so it’s a little less of a kick in the teeth for me if my horses did only show up say 5 times as I’d have them over multiple categories and wouldn’t notice as much.

LookingGood - Boosted horses are not exiled and can still appear on every board. Boosting your stallions and mares still improves their lb placing. Nothing has been exiled. I hear that you are frustrated but I think you are jumping to unfounded conclusions here. Maybe if you explained what you think that edit means I can help figure out where the misunderstanding lays.

ETA: I went ahead and looked over your barn. I can tell you are not one of the players this would have any impact on, as you do not use boosting in the way this edit impacts. In fact, it should help your account. Yours is exactly the kind of account this edit was put in place to protect.

TallyHo - When we did testing, we found that what ribbons were lost in someone's main category were made up for in incidental ribbons they gained from the change so we did not find it it reduced a players average total number of ribbons won. It had no significant impact on players already on the boards while still allowing a lot of new names to appear.

I like the limit idea, I felt so bad one "year" when I dominated the whole foal pt board with 24 foals there was only one other player on there, so I sold back to game almost all them foals (that's a me problem I know :) but I knew it was amazing I achieved it but I felt bad no one else would be able to place.) So I definitely support the 5 spot rule.
I didn't have the funds to boost ect till I figured out more on placing, I've had the top spots in one of the appy boards for a while now ribbons and GMTs through hard work breeding and bringing in outside stock for better foals crops. I've just now felt comfortable with maxing and boosting my stock, so I can't personally weigh in on the rest of the conversation but definitely feel there should be a limit so one or a hand full doesn't over take a board or sections of the boards

Like Kisanth, I would like to know what will happen with the leaderboards that already struggle to fill up enough to cover the 25 spots?

I know this won't affect many of them but it will be really disheartening to have specialised in something, gotten good at it and then get no reward.

When the change is implemented, I have no opinion.

I do think a limit of 5 would be best. My ribbons come mostly from showing with the occasional best PT, so it would be a little frustrating to know that my show horses are capped at how many could place. However, I also understand the need for a healthier leaderboard. If the limit applied to best producing and PT only, so it only affects the breeding portion, I would probably be happier. But I’m ultimately fine with what’s best for the community.

Forgot to add: I am also allowing fantasy horses in all the size-specific clubs.