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In this Discussion
- AmberHaven300 May 2024
- Ammit May 2024
- Bluemesa May 2024
- SummerMonarch May 2024
- Walywoohoo May 2024
Specific Straws / Breeding & PT
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I’m looking for 10 straws, which are Era 0, and have a PT of 15 or higher. I plan to use them with my top mares and Futurity lock the foals. Thank you!AmberHaven300 (she/her)
Player ID# 15090 - Basic Upgrade
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Only LadyHawk, BlueMesa, LG, and Ammnit have what you want and have open lines.
https://mesa.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&jump=0&ageg=2&f_basic=pt&mare=0&gelding=0&spayedmare=0&name_lm=not+like&owner=92&owner_lm=not+like&56=0&57=0&58=0&59=0&60=0&61=0
Blue has straws up.
https://mesa.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&status6=1&jump=0&f_basic=pt&56=0&57=0&58=0&59=0&60=0&61=0 -
Alright! Thanks Summer!AmberHaven300 (she/her)
Player ID# 15090 - Basic Upgrade
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You should be caring about the breeding ability of the sire not his PT. PT does not pass on. ;)
What you want for the best possible stud is a stallion double-boosted over breeding cap.Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
she/herThanked by 1AmberHaven300 -
As far as I can tell, another way to explain the above is as follows:
Horses of a certain breeding ability can throw a range for PT. So if a horse has a breeding ability of 100 they’ll create horses with PT from 9.4 to 10.8. A horse with a breeding ability of 150 can create horses with a PT from 12.5 to 14. A single boosted 155 can create horses from 13 to 14.5 and a 160 throws 14 to 15.5.
All of these numbers are made up but are roughly accurate.
Therefore, if you want high PT foals, you should use the highest breeding numbers you can get. We can’t see the breeding numbers but we get a couple of clues. We know perfects start at 100 and exper at 105. We know we hit cap, whose breeding numbers makes a max pt of 14. We know the highest PT we’ve seen is 15.3, which is out of a double booster. We know that cap + 5 is a single boosted horse. We know that + 5 on that is a double boosted horse (maxed, boosted, cloned, boosted.) We know double boosted horses make the highest PT numbers.
PT is linked to breeding ability but it’s linked as a RANGE and where the sire and mare fall in their own PT range is irrelevant for the PT of the foals they produce. It is their breeding ability that sets the PT range, not the PT they exhibit.
Breeding ability = PT rangeThanked by 1AmberHaven300 -
Thanks you guys! I kinda understand but its enough to know what I need to do to keep my high herd rolling.AmberHaven300 (she/her)
Player ID# 15090 - Basic Upgrade
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Of the stallions Bluemesa posted this is the best producer if that is what you are going for, but there are lots of double boosted over cap horses with much lower PTs as well.
https://mesa.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2768320Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
she/herThanked by 1AmberHaven300 -
Thank you Ammit!AmberHaven300 (she/her)
Player ID# 15090 - Basic Upgrade
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Secret is better than Stash!
Wow. I didn’t expect that. Probability is a fickle mistress.
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To confirm, this means that Secret has the potential to make the highest PT horses because his maximum possible foal PT range is higher (because of his high breeding ability, not because of his PT)?
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Is this a true statement: There are multiple horses at the top possible point in breeding ability , all with different PT scores. All of those horses are capable - probability is real - of throwing the highest PT when mixed with another horse at the top of the breeding ability scale.
If that’s a true statement, I get it. Maybe. -
I don't really follow what you are trying to explain with PT range and all that but all double boosted-over cap horses have the same breeding ability. PT is not breeding ability and not inheritable so it does not matter what PT a horse has for breeding. Only breeding ability maters for breeding.Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
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Right. So the horses with the highest breeding ability are the horses that throw the highest PT foals, correct?
I am asking nothing about the parents PT in this question. -
This horse (a double boosted 14.7 pt) has the same ability to make a super high PT foal as Max Powers, yes? (Powers is a 15PT double boosted.)
https://mesa.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2524586
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Rephrased:
Breeding ability sets potential foal PT. -
So this boy has both parents boosted, would it be best to follow my plan and boost him too?
AH Great BluestoneAmberHaven300 (she/her)
Player ID# 15090 - Basic Upgrade
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@Amber boosting (or a max/boost combo) should make him AGA sire. If you only boost, his PT will remain the same.Thanked by 1AmberHaven300
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Waly has a full sibling (mare) that they have maxed and boosted, to give an idea of what you’d be looking at.
Boosted WeightThanked by 1AmberHaven300 -
Drool! Pull those eggs and sell them, Waly, unless you are going to bred her!
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Oh lol thanks for the reminder!
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And if y'all like that mare, check out THIS one!
WKD Shenanigans Dbl Trbl -
The mare I posted was a clone of the one Bluemesa posted. I made her a chimera and then boosted again.