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Members on forest have done a great job at starting to post some suggested prices if people would like to see what they are thinking.

What multiple people did on forest was copy and paste the entire list of offers and put a price next to each item (sometimes with comments). That is the most helpful feedback I have gotten on any server and would love to see members do the same on this server. :)

T1 -Change the name or breed characteristic of a horse you used to own but is now deceased.
◇I have no interest in this. $5


T1 -Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. You must already own the boost tokens to do this.
◇I assume the resulting horse would be ** Era 0 Foundation with perfect consistency? $10

T2 -Convert any pasture into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.
T2 -Convert any barn into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.
◇This is already priced :) nearest $5.

T2 -Pick any herd helper rank 5 or below, get 250 creates, and lasts 5 days
◇This is tricky. Out of 250 regular HH I may only get 10 to pass SBA. $5

T2 -Pick any normally available, RS herd helper, get 100 creates, and lasts 5 days
T2 -Pick any, Special event only RS, get 50 creates, lasts 5 days
◇These HHs will pass SBA. $10

T2 -Convert any unbred rank special you have into an exceptional (or normal) version of that rank special. Discount for bulk edits of horses in the same barn needing the same edit.
◇Priced per horse (hence "discount for bulk")? $5 (per horse?)

T2 -Have 10,000 show points assigned to 1 horse of your choice.
◇This is great! And I feel I would be OK with $10.
T2 -Have 2,500 show points assigned to 3 horses of your choice.
◇$5
T2 -Have 1,000 show points assigned to 5 horses of your choice.
◇I feel this one is useless compared to the other two options.

T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 barn: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding horse (or horses in the case of a tie) in that barn by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per barn.
◇This is hard. (I wouldnt necessarily care for the worst horse) $5 (I have 71 barns). -This may be interesting if we could see who our best of a generation is. $10

T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 horse: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding offspring of a horse by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per sire/dam.
◇Somewhat goes along with generational $10

T2 - 100 straws, or 25 eggs from any deceased horse with the last owner’s permission*
◇$10
T2 - 25 eggs from any mare you own, up to 500 eggs total
◇For a random number 26-500 $15


T2 -Clone any deceased horse with breeder permission*, or any foundation horse you own regardless of breeder, or any lined horse you own with breeder permission*. **
◇$10

T3 -Clone any lined horse and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. **
◇$15

T4 - Design your dream Herd Helper, and receive it for 50,100,or 250 creates, lasting 5 days depending on how many GMTs it is valued at. Hard limit of 20 GMT worth of rare genes per herd helper. (Exceptional status counts as 5 GMTs)
◇Love this one too! $20 (I would be able to create two with my $50 purchase and be able to afford one other thing).

T4 -Create a background tack pack: YOU create up to 10, 500 by 500 px images. They must all be approved before I will accept payment. We will add the game logo and add it to the game as an option for any player to purchase, and you will get it automatically unlocked.
◇I think this is great but I feel this is a very grey area since it isn't a guarantee. $20

I tried to think of players who don't have a ton of funds (like me). If I spend $50 and have these prices I feel it's definitely worth spending $50. I'd be able to do a couple things and be happy with what I've purchased. And since there isnt a time limit (currently) I feel like I'd be spending more and feel justified in spending $100+ on a game. I don't think Id want (or need) 100 or even 50 RS horses. Maybe to sell them, but even then I don't see the highly desired RS being bought past 20(?) horses. And I have no idea what the time to do these things looks like. I'm just throwing out some prices based on my own financial situation and how I would justify spending money on the game rather than gas in my car or taking my son out.

With those prices I'm out. Definitely can't afford or justify that.

I probably wouldn’t be able to pay more than the 50 minimum at once but if it’s an ongoing/rotating sale I could do 50 every other month or so.

I really like the ideas of tiered systems for specific things like boosting, cloning, maxing etc. I think it would be a good idea to have a monthly (or farther out because I know y’all don’t have all the time in the world to work on these with all the background things for the game) HH creates where people can pay a price and maybe it’s capped out to only one a month?

So like, I pay 15$ a month to create one custom HH within the GMT limits you have provided and that gets added to the HH list to be put out within the time limit you guys need. You could also have them be less expensive like let’s say 5$ and with that the community can decide which HH’s they would want added to the game that month.

As a medium sized stable that isn’t super into all the quirks and tricks of the game it would be cool if there was a premium tutorial or like cheat sheet page you can pay to access that gives more in depth explanation of things. I know we have the wiki but sometime I want to ask more about something and not over clutter the forum with question after question. Idk if this would be helpful to others but I think it would be great to have an overview of things like why showing is so important, how to set up barns and pastures to organize, BA vs SBA and what all those little messages mean about your lines when it says things like this is not a good cross they’re too ____, era breakdowns and tips on how to breed for the LBs vs how to breed for things like quality and generations

Let me know if there are any clarifying questions as I put this together really quick, thank you Ammit!

$5-10 T1 -Change the name or breed characteristic of a horse you used to own but is now deceased.

I have no interest in this. T1 -Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. You must already own the boost tokens to do this.

$20 plus extra money. T2 -Convert any pasture into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.
$20 plus extra money. T2 -Convert any barn into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$

(Assuming this can also split pastures.)


$10 T2 -Pick any herd helper rank 5 or below, get 250 creates, and lasts 5 days
$30 T2 -Pick any normally available, RS herd helper, get 100 creates, and lasts 5 days
$50 T2 -Pick any, Special event only RS, get 50 creates, lasts 5 days

$20 T2 -Convert any unbred rank special you have into an exceptional (or normal) version of that rank special. Discount for bulk edits of horses in the same barn needing the same edit.

In cash, this right now costs $10 (1% boost). The only difference here is that you era wouldn’t move AND you still get two more boosts rather than just one. So this price should be higher than $10, because we can do this for $10 now.

So I buy the herd helper get 250 creates and use a yellow one. Then I use this to hit a barn of 100. This feels a little game breaking. But I guess that would be very expensive.

$50 T2 -Have 10,000 show points assigned to 1 horse of your choice.
$40 T2 -Have 2,500 show points assigned to 3 horses of your choice.
$30 T2 -Have 1,000 show points assigned to 5 horses of your choice.

$50 T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 barn: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding horse (or horses in the case of a tie) in that barn by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per barn.

$25 T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 horse: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding offspring of a horse by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per sire/dam.

$25 (this should be more expensive than the use your own horse choice)T2 - 100 straws, or 25 eggs from any deceased horse with the last owner’s permission*

This seems like it could be powerful. Look at this thing:

https://mesa.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=1345515

50 cents an egg or a dollar an egg. T2 - 25 eggs from any mare you own, up to 500 eggs total


$25 with IV clone cost, or $100(?) without IV clone cost T2 -Clone any deceased horse with breeder permission*, or any foundation horse you own regardless of breeder, or any lined horse you own with breeder permission*. **

$25 with IV clone cost, $100(?) without IV clone cost T3 -Clone any lined horse and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. **

$200, + $50 for a 5 more gmt limit. (A boosted standard yellow to red.) T4 - Design your dream Herd Helper, and receive it for 50,100,or 250 creates, lasting 5 days depending on how many GMTs it is valued at. Hard limit of 20 GMT worth of rare genes per herd helper. (Exceptional status counts as 5 GMTs)

Not for me. T4 -Create a background tack pack: YOU create up to 10, 500 by 500 px images. They must all be approved before I will accept payment. We will add the game logo and add it to the game as an option for any player to purchase, and you will get it automatically unlocked.

I still like the token idea best
[ each ¤ token 10$USD] (TOKEN name example huntandjump=H&J)
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T1 -Change the name or breed characteristic of a horse you used to own but is now deceased.
¤ 1 H&J token

T1 -Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. You must already own the boost tokens to do this.
¤ 3 H&J tokens
¤ + boost tokens
T2 -Convert any pasture into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.
¤ 2 H&J tokens +$5USD
T2 -Convert any barn into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.
¤ 2 H&J tokens +$5USD
T2 -Pick any herd helper rank 5 or below, get 250 creates, and lasts 5 days
¤ 2 H&J tokens
T2 -Pick any normally available, RS herd helper, get 100 creates, and lasts 5 days
¤ 3 H&J tokens
T2 -Pick any, Special event only RS, get 50 creates, lasts 5 days
¤ 4 H&J tokens
T2 -Convert any unbred rank special you have into an exceptional (or normal) version of that rank special. Discount for bulk edits of horses in the same barn needing the same edit.
¤ 5 H&J tokens (barn)
¤ 3 H&J tokens (per single horse)
T2 -Have 10,000 show points assigned to 1 horse of your choice.
¤ 4 H&J tokens
T2 -Have 2,500 show points assigned to 3 horses of your choice.
¤ 3 H&J tokens
T2 -Have 1,000 show points assigned to 5 horses of your choice.
¤ 2 H&J tokens
T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 barn: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding horse (or horses in the case of a tie) in that barn by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per barn.
¤ 5 H&J tokens
T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 horse: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding offspring of a horse by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per sire/dam.
¤ 3 H&J tokens
T2 - 100 straws, or 25 eggs from any deceased horse with the last owner’s permission*
¤ 5 H&J tokens
T2 - 25 eggs from any mare you own, up to 500 eggs total
¤(25-50) 2 H&J tokens
¤(50-150) 3 H&J tokens
¤(150-250) 4 H&J tokens
¤(250-350) 5 H&J Tokens
¤(350-450) 6 H&J Tokens
¤(500) 8 H&J tokens

T2 -Clone any deceased horse with breeder permission*, or any foundation horse you own regardless of breeder, or any lined horse you own with breeder permission*. **
¤ 4 H&J tokens
T3 -Clone any lined horse and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. **
¤ 5 H&J tokens
T4 - Design your dream Herd Helper, and receive it for 50,100,or 250 creates, lasting 5 days depending on how many GMTs it is valued at. Hard limit of 20 GMT worth of rare genes per herd helper. (Exceptional status counts as 5 GMTs)
¤(50) 4 H&J tokens
¤(100) 5 H&J tokens
¤(250) 6 H&J tokens
T4 -Create a background tack pack: YOU create up to 10, 500 by 500 px images. They must all be approved before I will accept payment. We will add the game logo and add it to the game as an option for any player to purchase, and you will get it automatically unlocked.
¤ 5 H&J tokens

Some of these sound expensive but buying tokens we could save up to do this and stack them together for multiple things.

The background thing is on the list because one player specifically requested it on another server. I am guessing they would be the only one who would want to take advantage of it.

If you could copy the list and say what you would pay for all of it (or your own ideas) that would be super helpful. :)

We lose money, not make it, from candy and sea ponies.

I would totally use the background thing to :x

I posted this on forest and will repost it here.

"But yes the complexity of having to work things out with each person is why I can't do less than 50. A good chunk of that 50 just covers my time doing a bunch of back and forth PMing and dealing with the mental health toll of having tons of people on different servers all wanting my attention. The reality is that making 100 dollars deal with two people is better than making a 125 dealing with 5. The difference in time those extra 3 people take, starts taking amounts of time I simply can't spare."

I can not do 25 as a minimum. I just can't afford the time. I understand not everyone can afford that, and I don't want anyone to feel pressured too. There will still be sales of automated items that don't require me to be directly involved which will be more affordable.

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Here is my second round with some preliminary pricing that I think is fair based on my time and what members have suggested. I have also added and removed some items and changed the values on some. I will do my best to answer the questions I have been seeing. The pricing and options are still subject to change and feedback on both are still wholeheartedly invited.

Prices are listed in tokens with each token = 5USD

Misc Small Items
1 token - Set the era of any unbred horse you own to an earlier era. This is not a boost and does not impact breeding ability. Great for eras with no foundations anymore, and can be added to the below cloning options. For example an era 12 could become an era 3 but not an era 13.

1 token -Change the name or breed characteristic of a horse you used to own but is now deceased. Can't have foals owned by other players unless you were the last owner.

1 token -Change the height or bone weight of any lined unbred horse you own to any creatable height/bone weight. Can be bred already if you own all the foals.

1 token - Add up to 50 words to the random name generator. Gemstones, pokemon, Tolkien elves, give me a comma-separated list and I will add them in.

1 token -Breeding ability consult for 1 barn/pasture: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding horse (or horses in the case of a tie) in that barn/pasture by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per barn/pasture.

1 token -Breeding ability consult for 1 horse: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding offspring of a horse by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per sire/dam.

1 token -Delete every straw/egg owned by you from a single horse on a single account.


Fun with Foundations
2 tokens-Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. You provide the 7 5% boost tokens, expros only need 6 5% boosts
-or-
25 tokens -Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. I provide the 7 5% boost tokens, no discount for expros as this is already a 155 dollar discount on tokens

2 tokens -Have 10,000 show points assigned to 1 horse of your choice. If added to a foal the lifetime payout will be between 500k and 1 million.


Cloneing
2 tokens - Clone an otherwise impossible-to-clone horse. I will quote you what the price will cost in IVs for the clone. You pay the IV cost plus 2 tokens. Gene licenses are not included.
-Clone any foundation horse in the game regardless of living/dead, owner, or breeder.
-Clone any living lined horse with breeder and owner permission*
-Clone any deceased lined horse with breeder permission*
-or-
20 tokens - Get any of the “impossible clones” above but pay only the 20 tokens, no IV charge.

3 tokens -Clone any lined horse (including deceased and regardless of breeder) and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. I will quote you what the price will cost in IVs for the clone. You pay the IV cost plus 3 tokens. Gene licenses are not included.
-or-
21 tokens - Clone any lined horse (including deceased and regardless of breeder) and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. You do not pay any IV costs. This option is for horses that would be prohibitively expensive to clone. Gene licenses are not included.

Seed Stock
2 tokens - 100 straws, or 25 eggs from any deceased horse with the last owner’s permission*
2 tokens - 25 eggs from any of-age mare you own

Either of the above can be purchased multiple times with a limit of 500 pulled per horse in game.


Barn & Pasture Edits
1 token + difference -Convert any pasture into a larger version, just pay 1 token plus the price difference, rounded to the nearest $5.
1 token + difference -Convert any barn into a larger version, just pay pay 1 token plus the price difference, rounded to the nearest $5.

2 tokens - Merge 5 empty 210 barns into a 1000 stall barn
3 tokens - Merge 5 not empty 210 barns into a 1000 stall barn

Most barn and pasture merging or splitting will be decided on a case-by-case basis. The numbers are too complex to make a full list. The general rule will be, that you have to be reasonably close in stall count to the target. 2 tokens for dealing with empties. 3 tokens if I have to shuffle your horses around. You can name what you think is reasonable for me to sign off on before purchasing.

3 tokens per 50 stalls - Create a custom-sized barn in any interval of 50 you want 1k is the hard max.

Herd Helpers

1 token -Convert any unbred exceptional rank special horse into a normal perfect create. Removes the era penalty.

3 tokens - Pick any herd helper to be assigned to your account. Cost is the same regardless of rank (only the count changes). These will not have the option to share the herd helper. Can purchase multiple times if you want more than the listed number of creates This will last 5 days so that you don’t have to create everything in one sitting. This is 1 herd helper with a long window not 5 days of herd helpers.
-Any rank 5 and below - 250 creates
-Any normal Rank Special 50 creates
-Any "special event only Rank Specials" 10 creates This includes genes like S+, p+, satin, etc

10 tokens - Design your dream Herd Helper. Can be a modification of a prior one or an all-new concept.
- Price is the same regardless of rank.
-I will decide what rank and if the hh is in normal rotation based on how fancy(how many GMTs) the hh is.
-You provide the name and description text for rank specials. Subject to approval.
-Only genes already possible on Herd Helpers can be picked from.
-You can use up to 20 GMTs worth of rare genes in your herd helper. Prices are based on the GMT lab normal price. Genes that only cost 1 GMT do not count against your 20. (I might have some flex on this. Talk to me before buying.)
-Adding exceptional status costs 5 GMT
-Once created your herd helper will be a permanent addition to all servers.
-You will receive the “Pick any herd helper” deal above for free with your new herd helper on one account.



Tack Pack Creation
10 tokens -Create a background tack pack: YOU create up to 10, 500 by 500 px images. They must all be approved before I will accept payment. We will add the game logo and add it to the game as an option for any player to purchase, and you will get it automatically unlocked.
-5 tokens for every 10 images added after the first 10.
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*Permission is deemed granted automatically if the breeder/owner (for cloning) or prior owner (for seed stock) if the player has been inactive for 6 months or more. If the player is still active, permission must be obtained before I am contacted for this service. I will be quick to turn down any cloning requests if I feel it will cause drama.


Everything listed above has the caveat of “within reasonable limits.” I reserve the right to reject anything if I think it is going to cause problems/drama in the game. Everything will be finalized on a case-by-case basis because I can not possibly address every edge case in this post.

This looks very reasonable to me as well! A great variety of options and fair prices. Super excited for this! :D

Looks great Ammit.

I’m blown away by a 1 token era 0 foundation.

Can we also pay for a freezer clean out? Hitting 7 over and over to delete is…overwhelming sometimes. Especially when one waaaay overpulled.

That sounds wonderful. When I first started I pulled 500 of a lot of weird things.

Hmm probably 5 as well.

Just a heads up that a way more people seem excited about the idea of creating backgrounds than I expected. Frankly that is the most time consuming and stressful thing out of all the options listed. One person suggested it and frankly I thought they would be the only one interested. The interest looks like it might be really overwhelming for me. (A good problem to have I know.)

To keep it from getting out of hand I am going to handle that part of the sale separately from the rest with its own time slot. I also will be putting all the member special sale backgrounds into a single tack pack so we don't get overrun. Everyone who contributes art will of course be named in the tack pack description.

This change is to make it so I don't have to change the cost. It is still the same amount of work for me per person so your first 10 backgrounds are still 10 tokens.

Adding a "Moving Sale Discussion" pan chat for coordinating backgrounds, and herd helpers across alls servers, and general pre-feedback on those to help lighten the load.

@SummerMonarch You can see a preview of your new badge on the Who is Online page.

https://mesa.huntandjump.com/online.php

OH MY PRETTY PONIES! I love the new badge looks. Ok, I'll definitely have to pay enough HBs to someone to get the moving helper one.

Editing to ask when the tokens can be bought? I really do feel that I need pretty badges.

I think I really want to design a herd helper, but I'm wondering if I'd be able to get the creates for the new Era? I'm making plans for Era 7 :D

Yes. I mean can I design a herd helper, have it approved, but only get the creates in June?