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Ammit · Aug 15, 2023 9:31 AM

We are starting to plan out the next set of BCs. Our current plan is to have the Morgan, Lusitanio, and Shire but we really want to know what breeds you want to see featured.

Please post your suggestions with a horse breed you want to see added to the game. If you want a very dished fashed arab, or a heavy set quarter horse please make sure you are specific and give examples. Otherwise, we will assume you mean a generic member of that breed. You can post photos/links if you want, and explain why you think a breed should be added next. It's ok to repost the same breed or variants of a breed posted by someone else. It's also ok to have variants of breeds we already have represented.

This is just our brainstorming phase. There will be a round of voting to help us decide on the final picks.

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EDIT: Posting this here since people tend not to read the thread before posting.

We have sat down and gone over people's suggestions.

Right now our plan is:

Light: Traditional Arabian
Medium: Stock type QH and a Lusitaino/Andalusian (a true wb would be better but I want a Spanish breed lol!)

If Jenx has time he will try to also get out a Fjord before the end of the year.
We also have a Halloween BC in the works.

LookingGood · Aug 15, 2023 11:01 AM

Trait du Nord

This draft breed is on the verge of extinction. It was originally considered a subtype of the Ardennes, however became its own recognized breed in 1903.

Trait du Nord is large, well built, powerful, with a large frame and well-developed muscles, energetic, with easygoing and beautiful gaits. Members of the breed are described by the breed association as courageous and observant, as well as gentle and easy to handle. The head is generally small in proportion to the mass of the horse, and often snub, with a flat profile (neither concave nor convex). The neck is of medium length and strong, often slightly arched. The withers are prominent and the shoulder long and slightly oblique. The back is short and straight and the body compact, solid and very muscular. The chest is deep, with a broad, muscular breast. The croup is wide and powerfully muscled. The hooves are hard and strong.

https://imgur.com/a/CM01imF

I would like to see the Trait du Nord featured as a BC because I think their body will suit a draft style that I like. I also think this breed deserves recognition. If I had the facilities etc this is a breed I would want to have in real life.

Goldfinch · Aug 15, 2023 11:18 AM

I think a Welsh Cob would be something nice to consider, specifically Section D. It would be a good option for those who like cobs in the game, but want the cobbiest cob to ever exist. They have slightly dished and refined faces, cresty necks, a stocky build with short, thick legs and considerable muscling, and moderate feathering. I have provided photo examples below.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/91/18/18/911818f53f7d95cec36b704348594c69.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d8/07/54/d807545b3772b9335413f7349b57804b.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/wpcsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Yswain-Joel-trotting-Dsc_0278.jpg?w=623&ssl=1

EDIT: I would like to add that in order to stay in line with what Ammit has said, my suggestion is only the build of this breed - not to add the breed itself. Just wanted to clarify.

Ammit · Aug 15, 2023 11:20 AM

A reminder that we are adding breed characteristics NOT breeds and don't care about breed standards. :)

Tarma · Aug 15, 2023 11:47 AM

Big butts on quarter horses please. The stock pony build, not the show or racing ones. I'll try to find good pictures after work.

LadyhawkeStables · Aug 15, 2023 12:37 PM

Would love to see a revamped version of the current riding horse art to be more Arabian specific. Honestly pretty happy with the current facial features, but the neck and back would be my focus (especially for current riding ponies, they look super long backed)

Also would be very excited about Morgans! I personally like a slightly more refined head and neck than the original foundations - something like this guy

Would also love to see more of a Reiner version of a quarter horse with the big ol booty and more of a rounded top line.

Ammit · Aug 15, 2023 12:38 PM

We are not revamping/changing any of the current art, but are happy to make an Arabian BC if people are wanting that.

LadyhawkeStables · Aug 15, 2023 12:43 PM

Totally understand that, but I do think you guys nailed the Arab face shape (which is always tough to do) and it could potentially be used as a part of of an Arabian BC!

RKOHaven · Aug 15, 2023 2:48 PM

I posted on Forest server too, the breeds I would love to see are:
Kladruber, Trakehner, Thoroughbred, Arabian(Traditional) and the American Quarter Horse(Traditional).
my real life AQH Baron Harlon - this was back in 1994, he was 10y and I was 40 something.

Baron was a AQH old bloodline gelding
American Quarter Horse
Trakehner:

Arabian:
https://images2.imgbox.com/78/e1/qxSzO5mh_o.jpg
https://images2.imgbox.com/a4/4e/8MUUNJBI_o.jpg
Thoroughbred Horse

Last just had show him, I love Appaloosa horses like
the great Wapiti
The great Stud Spider

Thoroughbred

Ammit · Aug 15, 2023 2:58 PM

I am seeing lots of quarter-horse suggestions but I think it probably makes more sense to have more of a warmblood type for our next one since we don't have a super warmblood type to represent them yet.

WillowRidgeFarm · Aug 15, 2023 3:56 PM

Would love to see
1. An Egyptian Arabian type to be exact. In sort of a “halter type” presentation.
2. A more typey warmblood, specifically like a dutch warmblood
3. Morgan
4. Irish Draught, love the more refined look in a draft breed
5. Tennessee Walking Horse

LookingGood · Aug 15, 2023 3:57 PM

Oldenburg

The Oldenburg is a compact horse with relatively short legs; short cannons; powerful hindquarters; a long, strong neck; a deep chest; and large hooves. Their appearance is accentuated by kind eyes that mirror the horse's calm tractable nature.

https://imgur.com/a/L8cutoX

Fell Pony

Their neat, pony-like head is set on a fairly long, muscular neck, merging into well laid-back, sloping shoulders. They have a strong back, well spung ribs, muscular loins, powerful, square hindquarters and strong legs with plenty of bone. Their sloping pasterns and short cannon bones lead to hard, round hooves, partially hidden beneath fine feathering. Fell Ponies have characteristically long, thick manes and tails.

https://imgur.com/a/6mwLqaW

RKOHaven · Aug 15, 2023 4:09 PM

this would a beautiful warmblood BC, I think it is a Dutch Warmblood.

I love the Fell Pony :)
found a straight Egyptian Arabian head study

Arabian foal - it is very hard to find an Arab foal standing still lol

SummerMonarch · Aug 15, 2023 4:49 PM

A draft that looks like a Belgian. Big head, giant butt, broad chest. Hunky and chunky. I’m speaking of the blond Belgians that the Amish train and then sell to the rest of us.

A fjord. A little dude with an upright mane, primitive markings, and an almost zebra look. I think they’d make a great base horse to tack up and the like.

Tarma · Aug 15, 2023 5:18 PM

Would a lipizzan horse be considered a warmblood type?

Ammit · Aug 15, 2023 7:15 PM

Some thoughts based on suggestions so far

Light: It seems like a traditional Arab of some sort would be very desirable. I think this is probably our next light boned.
Medium: Lots of calls for stock-bred Quarter Horses, but I really think we need something more fitting of that Warmblood monicer this round, and then do the QH next go.
Heavy: Not a ton of suggestions for these. I have seen Fjords, Vanners, and Fell ponies mentioned more than once each.

One option might be to do an Arab, a QH and a Warmblood and skip heavies this round. I have no plans to make it one of each, each time we put something out. There are far more of the lighter breeds to explore.

LadyhawkeStables · Aug 15, 2023 7:59 PM

For the warmblood route I think a Hanoverian would be amazing!

SummerMonarch · Aug 15, 2023 8:58 PM

Fjords would be…medium, I guess? While they are very short they are stocky. Does that put them in heavy? Calling them cob like? A broad short zebra?

Kamcdaniel3 · Aug 15, 2023 10:01 PM

I love Andalusians, but I don't remember offhand if they're warmbloods.

Ammit · Aug 16, 2023 3:42 AM

Fjords would be heavies for sure.

RKOHaven · Aug 16, 2023 6:04 AM

@Ammit yes I think that would be nice, maybe two light horse BC and one Medium horse BC. I would not mind a AQH/stock type BC art, but for sure one of the Arabian type BC art and for warmblood maybe the Thoroughbred or one of the older Warmblood Type BC example Trakehner or Hanoverian. Thanks, Kat
PS: I did post a Dutch Warmblood which is very pretty and the Oldenburg is a good stout Warmblood. Oh by the way there is a newer Warmblood being worked too, It is called the American Warmblood and they are a cross between a stock type horse and thoroughbred I think, I will find the information and post it. The stock horse is usually a American Paint but the other horses like the AQH and Appaloosa can be used, but the common one that is used is a Paint horse. So maybe the American warmblood would fit the bill for your Warmblood since they tend to have a stock horse look to them. So you do the Morgan for the other light BC art.

American Warmblood - newest Warmblood in town

So there is an American Warmblood for every ones taste, I will try to find a Paint example the breed is really just getting established so I am sure the other older Warmblood are helping with the breeds looks and athleticism as well.

Ammit · Aug 16, 2023 6:22 AM

We have sat down and gone over people's suggestions.

Right now our plan is:

Light: Traditional Arabian
Medium: Stock type QH and a Lusitaino/Andalusian (a true wb would be better but I want a Spanish breed lol!)

If Jenx has time he will try to also get out a Fjord before the end of the year.
We also have a Halloween BC in the works.

RKOHaven · Aug 16, 2023 6:43 AM

@Ammit That sounds great, thank you adding more body types to this game I do dearly love your game. Spanish Breeds are awesome, they are one of the breeds of antiquity after all, like the Arabian they were the foundation stock of many a breed.

LookingGood · Aug 16, 2023 6:52 AM

Andalusian would be amazing! *star/heart eyes emojis*

Ammit · Aug 16, 2023 7:05 AM

We have had lots of requests for Lusitanos, Andalusians, and Lippizaners and I feel pretty confident that people who want one of these would be pretty happy with any of them. Then for the next round, we can add in a true warmblood.

Walywoohoo · Aug 16, 2023 8:03 AM

I definitely think a fjord would be popular.

GryphonHollow · Aug 16, 2023 8:20 AM

I am super intrigued by the mention of a Halloween BC. I have an entire Halloween themed line and this could be spectacular. :D

RKOHaven · Aug 16, 2023 8:47 AM

Will there be Baroque tack added later on when your team has the time and please unlock it all body types if you can, I can so see some of my horses standing in front of a beautiful Hacienda and it would be cool to have various flowers and plants to customize your Hacienda/Spanish stable to fancy up with. OOh Spanish Riding School Arena - I am getting very excited here lol.

Ammit · Aug 16, 2023 9:00 AM

There is quite a bit already in the Knights Tale tack pack. Dosn't mean we won't add more but it probably will not be a priority because of that.

RamshornRanch · Aug 16, 2023 2:26 PM

My only absolute wish would be to have a Quarter Horse for medium boned horses. I've been holding off purchasing any BC tokens in hopes that a QH would be coming soon.

I'm not opposed to how the rest of the group is leaning as far as wanting Arabs for light bones, and Fjords for heavy bones. I am going to throw out a few ideas for future releases after that point.

Light Bone Suggestions:
I'm having a hard time coming up with other light bone options after the Arab. Paso Fino or Hackney maybe?

Medium Bone Suggestions:
We definitely need some sort of Warmblood type. Dutch Warmblood and Oldenburg comes to mind for me.
Thoroughbreds I think would also be popular eventually.

Heavy Bone Suggestions:
Shires would be my first pick. I think Gypsy Vanners would get a lot of folks excited.

Infestissumam · Aug 16, 2023 7:06 PM

Light-
agreeing with the arab folks. I'd like to see more arab traits for the light builds. Or Akhal-Teke, though those might belong more in the medium section.

Medium-
Criollo, Lusitano, Andalusian, Thoroughbred?

Heavy-
Honestly I'd love to hopefully see some primitive body types. Tarpans would be cool.
But if you don't want to go that route, Ardennais and Bretons are a good candidate for some more chunky guys.

RedRockRanch · Aug 16, 2023 9:50 PM

I love the suggestion people have already come up with! I know you’ve already got this next round figured out but just in case I miss the next time you ask for suggestions I thought I’d post my ideas for future releases. I always seem to be a little too late on these kind of things!

Personally I would love something Tarpan-like whether it’s a Konik or a Heck horse. There was also a project very similar the the Heck horses but not as well documented on the west coast. I’ve taken pictures of the west coast version and they’re super cute! https://www.flickr.com/photos/highdeserttarpans/page1

As for heavy breeds a Halflinger, Shire or Clydesdale would be cool.

Thanks for all your hard work and dedication towards including the player’s feedback!

Goldfinch · Mar 12, 2024 12:07 PM

Would a mustang breed characteristic for light/medium build be a good idea?

Kind of scruffy, rough around the edges. Some light feathering maybe.

Also, I would like to thank the art team and Ammit for the great breed characteristics that we've gotten so far. I really enjoy the Irish Draught, especially.

CopperPenny · Mar 12, 2024 8:00 PM

I would love the see the more dish-faced Arabian for light and for heavy draft the Belgian, stocky working Belgian. Like the Amish work horse and horse pulling horses.
For the warmblood-the paint build or old quarter horse type.

Ammit · Mar 12, 2024 9:01 PM

This thread is old. We are not looking for suggestions and won't be taking any from this thread. :)

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