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Auction of my horses I never put in.
  • There have been many of my horses in the auction that I bought that i never put in the auction. How can this happen. They have many points and now other people own then.
  • 2266SwedishFish is who I bought them from.
  • I have bought a few from the auction with my other account.
  • https://mesa.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2655284
    This is a horse that I bought and somehow was put in auction and was resold.
    How can this player do this?
  • Horses do not enter the auction without someone actively entering them in the auction. By far the most likely answer is that you entered them on accident or don't remember but I can look into any horse a link is posted to.

    (I removed some comments on this thread that I felt were overreaching)

    ETA: I just double-checked the code and there is a security feature implemented where ONLY the person who owns the horse at the moment it is entered can enter it. I know exactly how the code works and even I could not force enter someone else's horses. This is true for regular and bulk entering. There is no way a person who is not the owner of a horse entered them in the auction. Looks like this was an accidental entry.

    I find it highly unlikely someone was trying to steal your horses particularly as that player has sold off all their horses. And all the horses were put in the auction for a fair sale price. Also, the seller of these horses liquidated all their stock so there are several hundred that have been auctioned and only horses sold to you ended up back in the auction. I don't see how or why any of this would be bad behavior by the original seller.
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    she/her
  • I only played that night and bought horses. The next night i came on i saw they were in the auction. I never put any in the auction.
    If you check my transactions, there is only one auction from my account, I didn't even get paid for the other horses that were sold under my name.As you can see in the transactions vs the recent auction sales.
    I chatted with the breeder and she doesn't know how she got the horse back as she didn't bid.
    When i first saw the horses in the auction I saw there was not a place bid. This is why I had to buy them with my other account.
  • I didn't think that player was trying to steal my horses, I was wondering if it could have been a glitch in the system? Because I know i never put any horses in the auction as i went to bed as soon as I bought these horses.
    I an not accusing anyone here. I just would like to know how this was possible as they were the last horses i purchased.
  • " I didn't even get paid for the other horses that were sold under my name"

    I checked the logs and all the payment records appear to be accounted for. I see no evidence you where not paid for them.

    50000 SwedishFish Public Auction 2023-11-16 17:42:01
    176000 ChiWends Public Auction 2023-11-16 23:19:02

    Just a "so you know" thing, you can always remove any horses you have in the auction house at any time. You don't need to bid on them from a different account.
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    she/her
  • I want to be clear that 100% believe you that you have no idea how those horses ended up in the auction. You were for sure paid for them though so at least there is that. I can't tell you the exact way they ended up in the auction though. I have records for a lot of things that happen on the site but not every click that every user makes. All we can do is watch and make sure more similar issues don't pop up.

    How did you come to own these horses? Like where/how did you buy them in the first place?
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    she/her
  • "I didn't think that player was trying to steal my horses,"

    Don't worry about it. I never got that impression from your post. It was implied by a now-deleted post that something untoward might be going on and I wanted to be very clear that I did not think that was happening.
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    she/her
  • I bought these horses on the search pages of for sale horses. I bought 5 or 6 from the same person. But it was funny that the last few high pointed horses were put up into the auction, They went back to the breeder as you can see and she put them into the auction.
    I tried to go to the take out of auction but I didn't see that they were even for auction on the horses page. That is why I used my other account.
    I have learned my lesson to check each night before logging off and in the morning to make sure nothing happens again.

    I am sorry , I see where you are correct and i did get paid. I feel bad that i made such a commotion over that. I was just so upset when i saw them in the auction. I know it is just a game.lol
  • Just to be clear you purchased them off the general sales board? Not a chat room or anything like that?

    Either you put them in the auction after you got them, or they were in the auction when you purchased them and you did not notice they were. It is not possible that they ended up in the auction after you got them, unless you entered them. Only the person who owns the horse is able to enter them in the auction. So you don't need to be checking every night and morning or anything like that.

    To be clear the game is set up to have fail-safes so that the second scenario should not happen but it is possible that is what happened. Maybe @SwedishFish can let us know if they had the horses for sale and for auction at the same time. If that is the case then we know what is more likely to have happened.
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    she/her
  • Also "you entering" in this case means your account. Could be from forgetting, sleepwalking, or kids messing with a tablet and doing it on accident. I have seen everything. Things happen all the time where we don't know exactly what happened. Just the nature of it. There are so many possibilities that sometimes there is no satisfying answer.
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    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


    she/her
  • Sorry I’m a little late. I don’t think I had the horses up for auction and for sale at the same time? That’s not possible, right? I thought that putting a horse for sale or auction cancels out the other?

    Another thing, I won a foal from the auction for 50000 hbs, and as you can see, I paid DevilsCash for that foal, but I had never bid on the horse. (I mean, why would I bid on a horse I just sold?) Maybe I accidentally bid, but this whole thing might’ve been some glitch?
  • When you put a horse in the auction and set the starting bid it enters you as the bidder. If you had the horse up for sale and auction at the same time you would have bid on the horse by default. If no one else bid then the horse would have sold back to you, even if somehow it got sold to someone else in the interim.

    And you are right it is not supposed to let you do that but one of you entered the horse in the auction for sure. It's just unclear what happened at this point. Either you put the horse up for sale and auction at the same time and it sold back to you (no one noticing it was for auction), or she put the horse up for auction and you bid on it. I don't know which is the case.

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    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


    she/her
  • I just had another horse that was in the auction. It didn't show up as being in the auction from this account. The only way i was able to remove it was to enter it in the auction on it's page and then remove it. It had only 5 hrs left in the auction. If i put it up for auction it would have shown on it's page that it was in the auction.

    Also if anyone sees any of these horses in the auction if you would mind bidding on them for me as i have not been putting any horses in the auction. I will give you the amount back plus extra for your time as i cannot be on here 24/7.
  • The horse was from the same breeder as the rest that i didn't put in the auction. I know it isn't anything to do with them, but why is the game doing this? I should have shared this with it being in the auction, but I was to surprised at it and didn't want it bought up again.
  • I need you to link the horses. I can't learn from what I can't see. :)

    The game is not "doing this" to be clear. A user who owned the horse at the time of entry entered them in the auction. It sounds like you somehow purchased a bunch of horses that were already in the auction when you bought them.

    I did a search and you have no horses for auction now. It's a shame we didn't do a search before as we could have seen the horse.
    https://mesa.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&status3=1&jump=0&owner=307


    Can you tell me how you knew that horse was for auction?
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    she/her
  • Also when you found the horse in the auction did you see who the starting bidder was? That could have told us who entered the horse.
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    she/her
  • Maybe I'm wrong for adding this, taking screenshots sometimes helps too...you're able to show exactly what it is you're seeing
  • Screenshots would help immensely. I am really limited in my ability to help here because I am being given so little information about what is going on. I keep asking for more info, links to horses, etc and not getting it which makes it very difficult to help.
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    she/her
  • When i bought the horses they were not entered into the auction as I was able to purchase them. The funniest thing is that it doesn't show them as being up for auction under this account.
    I always go through the horses for sale and up for auction to see if i can get some pointed horses and this is how I came across the foal in the auction. When I clicked on it I was unable to remove from the auction as it still had the put in auction spot there. I had to click on this then click on the remove from auction.
    Can anyone tell me how to take screenshots? I use mostly my desktop, but if I have to i also can use my phone of iPad.
    I am old school and don't really know all this new technology. Learning as I go.
  • @DevilsCash Hit the PrtScn button/ or Print Scrn button, to take a screenshot of the entire screen.

    Also youtube probably has a few "How to" videos on this♡
  • If they were not in the auction when you purchased them then you put them in the auction. The only way these horses got in the auction is if you or the prior owner entered them. Those are the only two possibilities. Since you are adamant you did not enter them and SwedishFish was mass entering horses in the auction then it is most likely they were in the auction when you purchased them.

    I 100% believe you that it did not look like they where in the auction but looking like they are in the auction and being in the auction are different things
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    she/her
  • OK I was able to get in there and so some testing now that I have some more information

    Here is what happened SwedishFish entered the horses in the auction. She then put them up for sale. That removed the for auction tag from the horses so they did not look like they where for auction but it never removed the horse from the auction. You bought the horses but they where still in the auction even though you purchased them. The horses then sold at auction normaly.

    Go to this page and look at the Manage Your Entries section
    https://mesa.huntandjump.com/pub_auction_manage.php

    If you have any horses listed you can remove them there. If you have none listed you have none for auction. I tested this and confirmed that it is correct. You tried to remove it from the horse's page before which will not work in this case because the horse does not have an auction flag. You have to do it from the manage your entries section in the auction house.
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    she/her
  • I'm guessing that this horse is in the same situation; after looking at her records, I doubt @mensie wanted to auction her off cheap...
    https://mesa.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2684340
  • Possibly. I will remove the horse just to be safe. I have been swamped with GE/December stuff and have not been able to get to this yet.
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    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


    she/her
  • Here's one that shows for sale, but when I click she's in auction, well above sale price, and I don't have the option to buy, only bid. Just sharing as another example :D
    https://mesa.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2695943

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